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pilleway
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Sirius and its companion
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April 13, 2008, 02:59:08 AM »
Dear friends I been working a little on trying to astrophotography Sirius A and Sirius B, I know that Sirius A is approx -1.8 while Sirius B is about 8 in magnitude, meaning that Sirius A is 10000 brighter that Sirius B.
Is there anybody that know how can I see and catch them in a Photo. Initially I try a mask and the following is what I got
I used a Hex mask but I do have doughs it is Sirius B shown.
Any comment or re commentadion?
Regads
Pille
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Re: Sirius and its companion
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April 13, 2008, 12:05:11 PM »
Pille,
I don't know if it is possible to capture Sirius B or not.
Your image looks very interesting though, especially the one spot at about 1:00
I did a Google and came up with some very interesting info, and saw a couple of xray images, and some very short exposures from very large telescopes.
I'm going to have to do more research myself because I just don't know if it is possible.
Thanks for sharing,
Ron
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pilleway
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Re: Sirius and its companion
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April 13, 2008, 02:14:05 PM »
Thinking about the situation, I think the trick will be to make the best balance between Sirius A and Sirius B to get the best compromise to be able to picture them.
I had taken the picture I shared to someone that knows some on optics and he told me that it might be a reflection of the image when passing through the Cristal, and because the mask was not touching the corrector lens ( there was about 2 or 3 mm he thinks that it is because of it. But Looking in to the following picture
Here you can see that there is no star rays due to the lack of the mask but still see something in the same position as the previous picture. FYI, both pictures in this chain were taken the same day at different times and was by playing with and without the mask.
Ron you referrer that had done some investigation in Goggle and did not see to much, but if there is any interesting information sure I will like to see it.
Gracias!
Pille
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Pilleway
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Re: Sirius and its companion
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April 13, 2008, 03:04:55 PM »
Pille,
I am still researching and found a few items, one from our own good Doc
http://www.weasner.com/etx/ref_guides/sirius.html
Also
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2243312/page/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1
I have tried to split it myself but Sirius has always been too bright, but I guess it can be done. I'll have to try again
Ron
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pilleway
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Re: Sirius and its companion
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April 14, 2008, 02:40:44 AM »
Ron, thanks for the links.
You got me material to work this week.
Muchas Gracias.
Pille
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Pilleway
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Re: Sirius and its companion
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April 15, 2008, 06:30:51 PM »
Hi Pille
There was an article by Jay B. Holberg in Sky & Telescope Feb 2008 discussing Sirius B. This article says it is possible to see Sirius B and it has been done by amateurs. The 50.2 year orbit of Sirius B is moving it out of the glare of Sirius A and now is the best possible to find it. Your explanation of the mask you are using may mean you have already seen the article?
Jay B. Holberg is a senior research scientist at the Lunar and Planetary Planetary Laboratory of the University of Arizona in Tucson so you may find some info there.
James C.
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Re: Sirius and its companion
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April 15, 2008, 06:51:36 PM »
Pille
I found this site at the University of Arizona at Tucson.
http://www.googlesyndicatedsearch.com/u/lpl?q=sirius+b
James C
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Re: Sirius and its companion
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April 16, 2008, 10:36:19 AM »
James,
Thanks for the link.
I'm going to have to try to split A & B maybe this next new moon in May
Can anyone explain this mask further? Can the center obstruction of an SCT be used for the mask?
Thanks,
Ron
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Re: Sirius and its companion
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April 16, 2008, 07:04:11 PM »
Hi Ron
How are thing going in Tampa? The article in Feb 2008 S&T says this about a mask:
"Cut a square or hexagonal hole in a piece of cardboard, sized so its diagonal width matches your scope's aperture. Tape it over the telescope's skyward end. Bright stars now have four or six very strong diffraction spikes. Rotate the mask so celestial east is midway between them."
In otherwords rotate the mask so that the spikes don't cover Sirius B.
James C
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pilleway
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Re: Sirius and its companion
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April 18, 2008, 04:11:48 AM »
James you are correct, as it can be seen in the first photo of the Chain, you can see 6 spikes, those are a result of the Hexagonal mask , reason why you can see them. The mask I installed on top of the corrector lens and it was the one that generated the effect.
If needed I can take a picture of the mask so it is more clear.
Regards.
pille.
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Pilleway
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19° 16' 12" N
99° 15' 50" W
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Re: Sirius and its companion
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April 18, 2008, 09:29:08 AM »
James,
Things are going pretty good in Tampa, had some unseasonably cool weather. In the fourties in the morning, but that helps keep the mosquitoes down.
I'll have to check my Feb issue of S&T.
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Pille,
A picture would be good, one showing it mounted on the telescope.
Thanks,
Ron
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pilleway
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Re: Sirius and its companion
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April 18, 2008, 10:19:43 PM »
Ron, I would ask for some days because today the Telescope is in the closet and I will be out of town over the weekend, but I will work it out and during the week I will take the picture and show you the mask mounted in the telescope.
Regards, have a nice weekend.
Pille,
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Pilleway
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19° 16' 12" N
99° 15' 50" W
LX-90 8" w/ WO ZenithStar 80II APO & Canon 30D.
pilleway
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Re: Sirius and its companion
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April 27, 2008, 09:02:07 PM »
Ron, here is the picture of the mask I used for the excessive I did
As you can see it was made out of a card box of cookies and it work oK!
I did read the links you shared with me but it is been raining for almost 2 weeks, first opportunity I will try to see if I can improve the seen.
Regards
Miguel.
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Pilleway
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19° 16' 12" N
99° 15' 50" W
LX-90 8" w/ WO ZenithStar 80II APO & Canon 30D.
Ron
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Re: Sirius and its companion
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April 27, 2008, 10:38:07 PM »
Thanks Miguel,
I'll have to try one of those out while Sirius is still in pretty good position for viewing.
Ron
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